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1Frequently Asked Questions about udev
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3Q: What's this udev thing, and what is it trying to do?
4A: Read the OLS 2003 paper about udev, available in the docs/ directory,
5 and at:
9d97f3bb 6 <http://www.kroah.com/linux/talks/ols_2003_udev_paper/Reprint-Kroah-Hartman-OLS2003.pdf>
b1830e79 7 There is also a udev presentation given at OLS 2003 available at:
9d97f3bb 8 <http://www.kroah.com/linux/talks/ols_2003_udev_talk/>
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10Q: How is udev related to devfs?
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11A: udev works entirely in userspace, using hotplug events the kernel sends
12 whenever a device is added or removed from the kernel. Details about
13 the devices are exported by the kernel to the sysfs filesystem at /sys
14 All device naming policy permission control and event handling is done in
15 userspace. devfs is operated from within the kernel.
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9d97f3bb 17Q: Why was devfs marked OBSOLETE/removed if udev can't do everthing devfs did?
b1830e79 18A: To quote Al Viro (Linux VFS kernel maintainer):
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19 - it was determined that the same thing could be done in userspace
20 - devfs had been shoved into the tree in hope that its quality will
21 catch up
22 - devfs was found to have fixable and unfixable bugs
23 - the former had stayed around for many months with maintainer
24 claiming that everything works fine
25 - the latter had stayed, period.
26 - the devfs maintainer/author disappeared and stopped maintaining
27 the code.
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29Q: But udev will not automatically load a driver if a /dev node is opened
30 when it is not present like devfs will do.
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31A: Right, but Linux is supposed to load a module when a device is discovered
32 not to load a module when it's accessed.
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34Q: Oh come on, pretty please. It can't be that hard to do.
35A: Such a functionality isn't needed on a properly configured system. All
36 devices present on the system should generate hotplug events, loading
37 the appropriate driver, and udev will notice and create the
38 appropriate device node. If you don't want to keep all drivers for your
39 hardware in memory, then use something else to manage your modules
40 (scripts, modules.conf, etc.) This is not a task for udev.
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42Q: But I love that feature of devfs, please?
43A: The devfs approach caused a lot of spurious modprobe attempts as
44 programs probed to see if devices were present or not. Every probe
45 attempt created a process to run modprobe, almost all of which were
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10a479f5 48Q: I really like the devfs naming scheme, will udev do that?
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49A: Yes, udev can create /dev nodes using the devfs naming policy. A
50 configuration file needs to be created to map the kernel default names
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51 to the devfs names. See the udev.rules.devfs file in the udev
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53 Note that the devfs scheme is not recommended or officially supported
54 cause it is a really stupid idea to simply enumerate devices in a world
55 where devices can come and go at any time. These numbers give you nothing
56 but problems, and are not useful to identify a device. Have a look at the
57 persistent disk rules for an example how to do it correctly in userspace
58 without any stupid device enumeration.
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60Q: What kinds of devices does udev create nodes for?
61A: All devices that are shown in sysfs will work with udev. If more
62 support is added for devices to the kernel, udev will automatically
63 start working for them. All block devices are currently supported, and
64 almost all major char devices are supported. Kernel developers are
65 working on adding support for all char devices at this time. See the
66 linux-kernel mailing list for patches and status of these patches.
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68Q: Will udev remove the limit on the number of anonymous devices?
69A: udev is entirely in userspace. If the kernel supports a greater number
70 of anonymous devices, udev will support it.
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72Q: Will udev support symlinks?
9d97f3bb 73A: Yes, It now does. Multiple symlinks per device node are supported.
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b1830e79 75Q: How will udev handle the /dev filesystem?
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76A: /dev is recomended to be a tmpfs filesystem that is recreated on every reboot.
77 Although, udev does not care what kind of filesystem it runs on.
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79Q: How will udev handle devices found before init runs?
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80A: udev can be placed in initramfs and run for every device that is found.
81 udev can also populate an initial /dev directory from the content of /sys
82 after the real root is mounted.
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166612d7 84Q: Can I use udev to automount a USB device when I connect it?
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85A: Technically, yes, but udev is not intended for this. All major distributions
86 use HAL (http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fhal) for this, which also
87 watches devices with removable media and integrates into the desktop software.
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89 Alternatively, it is easy to add the following to fstab:
90 /dev/disk/by-label/PENDRIVE /media/PENDRIVE vfat user,noauto 0 0
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92 This means that users can access the device with:
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93 $mount /media/PENDRIVE
94 and doen't have to be root, but will get full permissions on the device.
95 Using the persistent disk links (label, uuid) will always catch the
96 same device regardless of the actual kernel name.
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98Q: Are there any security issues that I should be aware of?
99A: When using dynamic device numbers, a given pair of major/minor numbers may
100 point to different hardware over time. If a user has permission to access a
101 specific device node directly and is able to create hard links to this node,
102 he or she can do so to create a copy of the device node. When the device is
103 unplugged and udev removes the device node, the user's copy remains.
104 If the device node is later recreated with different permissions the hard
105 link can still be used to access the device using the old permissions.
106 (The same problem exists when using PAM to change permissions on login.)
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4723bf98 108 The simplest solution is to prevent the creation of hard links by putting
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109 /dev in a separate filesystem like tmpfs.
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111Q: I have other questions about udev, where do I ask them?
112A: The linux-hotplug-devel mailing list is the proper place for it. The
113 address for it is linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
114 Information on joining can be found at
9d97f3bb 115 <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-hotplug-devel>
b1830e79 116 Archives of the mailing list can be found at:
9d97f3bb 117 <http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-hotplug-devel>
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